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		<title>By: @hkmr</title>
		<link>http://www.ajaimk.com/2009/07/22/ideal-co-working-space-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What about a House in Home Park?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could that do the job of a coworking space.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Could that do the job of a coworking space.</p>
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		<title>By: @hkmr</title>
		<link>http://www.ajaimk.com/2009/07/22/ideal-co-working-space-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cheaper Version:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1. Beds/Hammocks &lt;br/&gt;2. Meeting/Work Rooms- 2 birds one stone.&lt;br/&gt;3. Coffee Machine ($400/month can support an office of 50-100 people for coffee)&lt;br/&gt;4. Outdoor Kitchen &amp; Indoor Fridge- a restaurant&#039;s too expensive for a true bootstrap. &lt;br/&gt;5. Occasional hot food vendors visits &lt;br/&gt;6. Printer &amp; Copier&lt;br/&gt;7. Rentable Projectors&lt;br/&gt;8. Occasional stationary(paper) vendor Visits. &lt;br/&gt;9. Stationary Desktops ideal for programming Ninjas. &lt;br/&gt;10. Patio- for events. &lt;br/&gt;11. Lock and Key storage rooms.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Recurring Costs&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Wi-Fi costs&lt;br/&gt;-Rent&lt;br/&gt;-Donated/ Craiglisted Fridge&lt;br/&gt;-Cleaning Costs or member duties &lt;br/&gt;-BBQ Machine&lt;br/&gt;-Gas/Electric Range of some sort for cooking. &lt;br/&gt;-Electricity&lt;br/&gt;-Water&lt;br/&gt;-Coffee Machine refills&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Cheaper Version:</b><br />1. Beds/Hammocks <br />2. Meeting/Work Rooms- 2 birds one stone.<br />3. Coffee Machine ($400/month can support an office of 50-100 people for coffee)<br />4. Outdoor Kitchen &amp; Indoor Fridge- a restaurant&#8217;s too expensive for a true bootstrap. <br />5. Occasional hot food vendors visits <br />6. Printer &amp; Copier<br />7. Rentable Projectors<br />8. Occasional stationary(paper) vendor Visits. <br />9. Stationary Desktops ideal for programming Ninjas. <br />10. Patio- for events. <br />11. Lock and Key storage rooms.<br /><b>Recurring Costs</b><br />-Wi-Fi costs<br />-Rent<br />-Donated/ Craiglisted Fridge<br />-Cleaning Costs or member duties <br />-BBQ Machine<br />-Gas/Electric Range of some sort for cooking. <br />-Electricity<br />-Water<br />-Coffee Machine refills</p>
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		<title>By: mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www.ajaimk.com/2009/07/22/ideal-co-working-space-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;for about a month or two, i tossed around the idea of trying to develop a coworking or hacker space in midtown.  my major stumbling block was the issue of how to make it profitable.  i had a few people onboard with the concept, but not very many.  prime real estate in atlanta is expensive, even in this down economy.  the numbers just didn&#039;t fit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;also, atlanta now has freeside atlanta (http://wiki.freesideatlanta.org/) which would undoubtedly draw some of the interested crowd.  looks pretty cool, too, but not in an ideally convenient location.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;having said that, i&#039;d be willing to give it another go if the market and cost issue can be consolidated.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for about a month or two, i tossed around the idea of trying to develop a coworking or hacker space in midtown.  my major stumbling block was the issue of how to make it profitable.  i had a few people onboard with the concept, but not very many.  prime real estate in atlanta is expensive, even in this down economy.  the numbers just didn&#8217;t fit.</p>
<p>also, atlanta now has freeside atlanta (<a href="http://wiki.freesideatlanta.org/" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.freesideatlanta.org/</a>) which would undoubtedly draw some of the interested crowd.  looks pretty cool, too, but not in an ideally convenient location.</p>
<p>having said that, i&#8217;d be willing to give it another go if the market and cost issue can be consolidated.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.ajaimk.com/2009/07/22/ideal-co-working-space-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been forced to work out of Starbucks for the past month while I help my wife attend to some family business in LA.  Here&#039;s my $0.02 on the pros and cons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pros:&lt;br/&gt;- Coffee and $0.50 refills to stay perked up.&lt;br/&gt;- Other drinks when you want a change from coffee and modest snacks too.  $5.00 sandwich is fine when you don&#039;t want to break your groove.&lt;br/&gt;- Piped in music that drowns out some of the other&#039;s conversation.&lt;br/&gt;- Free(if you&#039;re an AT&amp;T customer) WiFi&lt;br/&gt;- Usually ample table space and power.&lt;br/&gt;- Open most daylight hours.&lt;br/&gt;- Air Conditioned. &lt;br/&gt;- You can have a conversation without being overheard to much.&lt;br/&gt;- Bathroom is readily available.&lt;br/&gt;- They don&#039;t seem to mind you hanging there all day.&lt;br/&gt;- You can have a phone conversation without bothering other people to much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cons:&lt;br/&gt;- WiFi requires you to log in.  That&#039;s not possible on some devices.&lt;br/&gt;- Bandwidth can suffer if there are a lot of people online downloading bit-torrents.&lt;br/&gt;- Air Conditioning.  No matter how hot it is outside, your body will eventually chill.&lt;br/&gt;- Piped in music.  Loops after a while and is the same for all locations.  This can start becoming distracting.&lt;br/&gt;- Noise.  Random blender running, children crying, banging, shouting etc.&lt;br/&gt;- Visual distractions of people moving around and coming in and out.&lt;br/&gt;- They do close eventually whether you&#039;re finished or not.&lt;br/&gt;- You can run up a pretty good bill if you have a stream of latte&#039;s and breakfast, lunch, and dinner there.  Menu is still limited.&lt;br/&gt;- If you want to pop out of  a bite somewhere else, you have to pack up everything.&lt;br/&gt;- Not completely private, you might not want to discuss your sales projections.&lt;br/&gt;- I can get to loud for a phone conversation.&lt;br/&gt;- Sunlight can be to bright for laptop at times.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve tempered some of the cons with this strategy.  I found a SB that is not to far away that doesn&#039;t have a drive thru.  It&#039;s got a table area that isn&#039;t next to the coffee machines.  I find or wait for a table so that I can face the wall.  At one point the noise was getting to be to much of a distraction.  I ended up finding this site &lt;a href=&quot;http://whitenoisemp3s.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://whitenoisemp3s.com/&lt;/a&gt; and downloaded some brown noise and eventually one of wind noise.  I put this on and bring the volume up just enough to mask out the ambient noise.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve also found that a local law school&#039;s library will let you just sign in.  This is better for serious focus and concentration.  The only problem is that it&#039;s hush-hush.  You&#039;d have to step out for a conversation or phone call.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This has all been fresh in my mind, so I thought I&#039;d dump it out here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Andrew&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been forced to work out of Starbucks for the past month while I help my wife attend to some family business in LA.  Here&#8217;s my $0.02 on the pros and cons.</p>
<p>Pros:<br />- Coffee and $0.50 refills to stay perked up.<br />- Other drinks when you want a change from coffee and modest snacks too.  $5.00 sandwich is fine when you don&#8217;t want to break your groove.<br />- Piped in music that drowns out some of the other&#8217;s conversation.<br />- Free(if you&#8217;re an AT&amp;T customer) WiFi<br />- Usually ample table space and power.<br />- Open most daylight hours.<br />- Air Conditioned. <br />- You can have a conversation without being overheard to much.<br />- Bathroom is readily available.<br />- They don&#8217;t seem to mind you hanging there all day.<br />- You can have a phone conversation without bothering other people to much.</p>
<p>Cons:<br />- WiFi requires you to log in.  That&#8217;s not possible on some devices.<br />- Bandwidth can suffer if there are a lot of people online downloading bit-torrents.<br />- Air Conditioning.  No matter how hot it is outside, your body will eventually chill.<br />- Piped in music.  Loops after a while and is the same for all locations.  This can start becoming distracting.<br />- Noise.  Random blender running, children crying, banging, shouting etc.<br />- Visual distractions of people moving around and coming in and out.<br />- They do close eventually whether you&#8217;re finished or not.<br />- You can run up a pretty good bill if you have a stream of latte&#8217;s and breakfast, lunch, and dinner there.  Menu is still limited.<br />- If you want to pop out of  a bite somewhere else, you have to pack up everything.<br />- Not completely private, you might not want to discuss your sales projections.<br />- I can get to loud for a phone conversation.<br />- Sunlight can be to bright for laptop at times.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tempered some of the cons with this strategy.  I found a SB that is not to far away that doesn&#8217;t have a drive thru.  It&#8217;s got a table area that isn&#8217;t next to the coffee machines.  I find or wait for a table so that I can face the wall.  At one point the noise was getting to be to much of a distraction.  I ended up finding this site <a href="http://whitenoisemp3s.com/" rel="nofollow">http://whitenoisemp3s.com/</a> and downloaded some brown noise and eventually one of wind noise.  I put this on and bring the volume up just enough to mask out the ambient noise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also found that a local law school&#8217;s library will let you just sign in.  This is better for serious focus and concentration.  The only problem is that it&#8217;s hush-hush.  You&#8217;d have to step out for a conversation or phone call.</p>
<p>This has all been fresh in my mind, so I thought I&#8217;d dump it out here.</p>
<p>-Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sloan</title>
		<link>http://www.ajaimk.com/2009/07/22/ideal-co-working-space-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like the Entrepreneur&#039;s version of the Gym Membership :P&lt;br/&gt;All in all, it&#039;s a pretty sweet idea but I think logistics and execution would be a serious handful. You&#039;re essentially running a hotel with a giant business center. Not to say that it couldn&#039;t work, but it would certainly be a challenge. I also wonder about how receptive the target market would be to a membership fee (which could be fairly hefty) when they can just head to Starbucks.&lt;br/&gt;That being said, I think a coffee shop specially tailored to entrepreneurs could be a big hit. The problems that I have when I work out of coffee shops (and I do quite frequently) is a lack of desk space, or scarcity of power sockets. A coffee shop that could address these things (while producing tasty beverages, of course) would probably be my office of choice.&lt;br/&gt;All things considered it&#039;s a good post.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-Ryan&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the Entrepreneur&#8217;s version of the Gym Membership <img src='http://www.ajaimk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />All in all, it&#8217;s a pretty sweet idea but I think logistics and execution would be a serious handful. You&#8217;re essentially running a hotel with a giant business center. Not to say that it couldn&#8217;t work, but it would certainly be a challenge. I also wonder about how receptive the target market would be to a membership fee (which could be fairly hefty) when they can just head to Starbucks.<br />That being said, I think a coffee shop specially tailored to entrepreneurs could be a big hit. The problems that I have when I work out of coffee shops (and I do quite frequently) is a lack of desk space, or scarcity of power sockets. A coffee shop that could address these things (while producing tasty beverages, of course) would probably be my office of choice.<br />All things considered it&#8217;s a good post.</p>
<p>-Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.ajaimk.com/2009/07/22/ideal-co-working-space-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No love for the GT Library? I&#039;d like to hear your thoughts later this year about the new Second Floor West of the library. It is being renovated for group study... and while it won&#039;t have showers or a stationary shop let me know what you think. I liked your ideas here-- gives those of us in the &quot;group work industry&quot; something to think about.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No love for the GT Library? I&#8217;d like to hear your thoughts later this year about the new Second Floor West of the library. It is being renovated for group study&#8230; and while it won&#8217;t have showers or a stationary shop let me know what you think. I liked your ideas here&#8211; gives those of us in the &quot;group work industry&quot; something to think about.</p>
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